And um, yeah, it's just really important that we, you are what you eat. You are what you ate, ate and, um, or eat, ate, um, and, uh, you know, I think, I think just from that standpoint, it's, it's really important to realize that most of these companies do not have your best interest at heart. They have profits at heart and profitability means lower quality ingredients, uh, for the most part.



Right. Um, you know, there's certainly natural grocers, big fan of natural grocers used to be a big fan of whole foods until Jeff Bezos took it over, but there's still quality products in there. Even though I think the prices are a little more expensive, but like, again, you get what you pay for.



Um, yeah, I don't know how deep you want to go or if you have specific questions, I'm, I'm down to dig in. No, no. I mean, I do, I do want to go so deep and I have so many other things that I want to go.



We can talk about anything. We can do this as often as you want, by the way. I love this.



We might need to do it again. This is my happy place. Okay.



All right. So let me start by this. I really, and I know that, you know, part of your food journey was really around getting well and I want to help people understand like the umbrella of intuition, you know, what you feed your body and listen, my kids will attest, like I am by no means a hundred percent.



I heard about your chocolate. I know, I know your background journey. I'm not, I'm not different by the way.



I've got that. So does my wife, my wife and organic Nutella, not the actual Nutella brand, but like, yeah, whatever the whole foods, dark chocolate version of that is, there's bottles of it hidden all over the house. Don't tell.



Yeah. Right. I'm not even kidding.



Like they're in closets, they're in, you know, like they're all over the house so that my wife could just grab a scoop and push forward. So right. If I could only grab a scoop, my husband wouldn't have to hide it, but he does.



So, um, so yeah, I know that, but that is probably what you put in here, but I don't know if that's a tribal thing. Like we were just denied too much all that years ago. I don't know.



I have no idea, but it's definitely a thing and it's definitely genetic. Yeah. Yeah.



So, um, so what we're feeding our body is the same way as what we feed our mind. Right. And all of these things dysregulate our nervous system, they dysregulate our, our genetics, all of these things.



And what I would love for you to speak to, because I think you really do it beautifully, is the nervous system. And just that broad overview of like how the nervous system works, what's happening and, you know, what drove you to, um, to, to where, to where you are. And we're going to get into, you know, creativity and intuition and energy and all that stuff.



But I would love if you just started there because I think you do a great job of it. I appreciate that. Um, look without over-complicating it.



All right. And there's, and there's, there's rabbit hole after rabbit hole that we can dive into and, and I'm, I'm game for all of it. Your nervous system is designed to do a couple of different things from my perspective, keep you safe and, and interpret the world around you.



And your nervous system is, is predominantly driven through your five senses, uh, sight, smell, taste, touch, and hearing, uh, sound. And, and there are a bunch of different ways that they overlap. The supercomputer that is between our ears and in our, you know, our brain, uh, is constantly processing information.



And the two main, I think the two most important parts specifically when it comes to relaxation and, and what we do at InHarmony and really the basis for my study is that when they say your perception is your reality, then the statement couldn't be more true. Quite literally the way that you perceive the world around you is your reality. I'm with my wife, 16 years.



I love her dearly. We can stand at the entrance to a room and look at what's happening in that room just for three minutes, then turn around, walk outside and talk about what we saw happening in that room. And we will have seen two completely different things.



And she has great eyesight. It's, it's not about the eyesight. It's about the lens that she's looking through and the perception that she has of what makes it through her reticular activator system versus mine, her filtration system versus mine and what she calls attention to for two or three minutes versus what I do.



Oh my God, did you see that girl over there and what she was doing? And, and I'm like, no, I, I didn't even notice it. I don't know if you saw that guy swimming, swinging from, you know, from a rope in the background. And she's like, what guys swinging from a rope in the background? You know what I mean? Like, and that's like just a timid thing, right? So we quite literally perceive our reality through our five senses, which by the way, we know are limited.



We know our eyesight only see a half a percent of the visible spectrum of light. Well, only a half a percent of the full spectrum of light is visible to us. We know we're only hearing a fraction of the available frequencies.



The human ears tuned between 20 Hertz to 20,000 Hertz. Well, we know there are a fuck ton more frequencies other than what's within that small little range, the mechanoreceptors in our skin, which is how we perceive touch. They only, they only send signals to the brain between five Hertz and 300 Hertz, right? Because our hearing is actually changes in pressure and our mechanoreceptors are what translate changes in pressure for our skin from the tips of your fingers to the tips of your toes, to the tip of your head.



The mechanoreceptors are what are sending signals to the brain. And it's really changes in pressure. Sound is actually pressure waves, not anything different.



So your hearing and touch is a very similar set of signals that are being sent to the brain. And of course, taste through the tongue and through the taste buds. Hearing, of course, to the cochlea, sight coming through the cornea and the retina.



And then of course, smell coming through the olfactory. This is how you, Abby, interpret the world around you and only through those senses. There's no other way.



Yeah. There's a sixth sense. And ancient Egyptians thought we had 360 senses.



Okay. We, we look and perceive five, maybe six or six cents, right? Which is certainly something and energy, of course, but energy largely is perceived through the five senses, especially if you're tuned into the subtleties of that energy, you're picking up on an energetic field through a change in pressure through the mechanoreceptors in your skin. That's why you can feel it in your hands as you're, as you're picking up on that.



And there might be other antennas and there might be a bunch of stuff that we're not familiar with the pineal gland and what's happening in the brain, but largely your nervous system is how you perceive the world around you. One and two, it's what keeps you alive. It's what allows you to perceive the world around you and your brain is constantly looking for threats.



It's, it's not looking for good things. You can train it otherwise. And we know that, but if you're not tending to your thoughts, chances are your thoughts are mostly negative and mostly focused on what might hurt you or bring harm to you.



And that's part of the problem with, with this world is that our nervous systems have not acclimated to the current world, which has changed dramatically over the last 200 years. And we have not evolved past sleeping on the floor of a cave, forging for food all day with very little going on except community and survival. And now we sit in these beautiful homes.



I can't speak to the rest of your home, but I can tell you the backdrop is beautiful and you've got artwork and shelves up. So you've got nails and screws and drywall and, and probably electricity. As I see, you know, lights coming through, unless it's a skylight natural light, which that's awesome.



But chances are you're sitting in front of multiple screens. You have electricity running through your house. You you're blessed with temperature controlled air.



Yeah. Right. Like we just have things that I have, I have three refrigerators in my house plus a freezer.



I'm a little bit of a prepper, no doubt. But if the electricity goes out, I'm good for a while. And, and that makes me feel safe in today's world.



But back then it was really about sleeping on the cable floor. I'll tell you, Dr. Olivia Lesler. I just spoke at Boulder wellness week this past week and I'll post the recording up on our YouTube channel.



She had a phenomenal, I saw her on another panel. She facilitated my panel and I saw her on another panel and, and she had this wonderful kind of share when it came to understanding and how to tend to the nervous system. And obviously that's what we do it in harmony, right? We're tending to the nervous system.



We're kicking in a parasympathetic, calm and relaxed state versus a sympathetic. And I believe most of us are walking around in a sympathetic nervous system all day, response all day. And the reason for that, have you, the sympathetic is your foot on the gas.



Go, go, go. It's go fight or float. Call it.



So it's fight or flight and survival mode. So, so let's, let me finish this thought and then I'll talk about and then I'll talk about what what Olivia shared because she's brilliant. So because your nervous system is constantly looking for threats, it will find them.



It's just that simple. And whether you're, it doesn't matter the type of stress that it finds, whether it's physical, mental, emotional, nutritional, which we started to talk about. And by the way, nutritional can be emotional and mental as well.



Should I eat that chocolate? Oh man, I really want that chocolate. No, don't eat the chocolate. You're already eating too much chocolate.



Yeah. But I really want the chocolate and I know it's going to taste good. And I ate the chocolate and now I feel guilty about eating the chocolate.



And it just keeps going. Eat the fucking chocolate. Pardon my expression.



Eat the chocolate. Right. And love it.



And don't feel bad about it. You know what I'm saying? Like don't agony over it. Agonize over it.



Just enjoy it. And you did it. And that's great.



And if you don't want to do it again because you think it was bad, then don't do it next time. You are in control of you. Only you are in control of you as a sentient being.



So make the decision. Have self-control or don't, but don't feel bad about it because that's almost what it makes it just exacerbates the situation. So it can be physical, emotional, relational, nutritional, financial.



I mean, insert stress that we have in this world. Just being a upstanding citizen. There's more to do in a day than I have time to do it.



Just being a good husband. Just being a great employer. Just being a great entrepreneur and leader.



Just being a great father. Like being a great housemate. Being a great friend.



There's more demands in my life than I know what to do with. There's more messages coming in. I can't even tell you how many times I tell people just pick up the phone and call me.



Don't send me a text. Don't send me a message on WhatsApp asking if you can call me. Just interrupt me and call me because I have more messages than I can get back to.



My current unread email account is 2431. Just in my InHarmony email account. And I have 10 email accounts.



And that's the equivalent at this point, right? Of lions coming and chasing us. My God, I'm overwhelmed. There's too much going on.



And we have the same primitive response. I can't worry about it, right? So the nervous system has one response to stress. Regardless of what that stress is.



Increased cortisol. Increased adrenaline. Going to fight or flight.



Fight. Flight. Fight.



Or flight. Wow, that's a tongue twister. I'm either going to fight to save myself.



Which by the way, none of these are life-threatening physical threats on my life. Right. Increased adrenaline diverts energy from maintenance tasks to priority survival tasks.



So it turns off rational thinking. The big brain in your head uses up most of the energy that you expel in a day. After that is digestion.



So it turns off rational thinking. It turns off digestion. And these are all to a different degree depending on how stressed you are.



But it turns off reproductive organs. And it turns off your immune system. Those are the four main survivability tasks.



Maintenance tasks that get turned off to make way for survivability. Because I don't have to digest my food if I'm not here in two hours, right? If I'm facing this threat, my brain and my body goes and my nervous system says, all right, we need to reprioritize the tasks at hand. I don't need to kill off cells because I'm not going to be alive in the next two hours if I don't survive this threat.



And just to jump in there, I think one of the things that is so powerful is that there's a voice in your head that is telling you that this is so important. Right? And you just said a minute ago, nothing's that important. And nothing is.



Like we have this ridiculous self-importance. You know, like, oh my God, what is the thing? I'm talking to Craig and the thing goes off and I can't get him back. And yeah, you know, like it's really just not that important.



Totally. You know, like, you know, and so it just and we believe that as a society, that it's so important and it just feeds that nervous system. Also, there's a reason for that.



OK, specifically when it comes to interconnection, because it is connected to our survivability. It was connected to our survivability. OK, today you can very easily survive on your own.



Look, it's nice to have a significant other. It's nice to have a family around. But the reality is this day and age, if you've got good income, a great job, and you're serving and providing value in the world, you can go to the supermarket and you can get all your food.



You don't need to be part of a tribe. But humans grew up, evolved, living in tribes. And the sweet spot is somewhere between 120 and 150 tribal members.



And this goes back millennia. And that sweet spot is between 120 and 150 tribe members, because anything above that, it gets really difficult to know everybody, connect with everybody and coordinate outside of, you know, all of the technology, all of the technical capabilities that we have today. We didn't have that.



It was all line of sight and presence. If I didn't see you, I didn't know where you were. And if you got ostracized from so back then, if if I if my interpersonal skills were not top notch, if I did something to violate the tribe or another tribal member, and and God forbid that got me ostracized from the tribe, that was certain death.



Because surviving on your own, if the men went out to hunt and the women weren't forging and taking care of the children, then we would not continue as as a species and we would not survive as a tribe. So to bring that into like what we face just for the audience, you know, that goes back to this core underlying question that is so embedded in us, but completely unconscious to most of us. Do I belong? Yes.



Do I belong? Am I enough? And am I doing enough? Yes. And that driver is causing us to get stressed out when Shirley said something about me that it didn't like. And so and so didn't like the speech that I gave and all of these things.



All of the self image stuff that we have, as Tony Robbins talks about, it's am I loved and am I enough? Am I doing enough? And the reason for that is if you're not feeling the love from the tribe, if you're not doing enough, I mean, this is literally how the human body has evolved over. You're not pulling your weight. Thousands of years.



Totally. Then it's like, hey, Craig's not pulling his weight. And at the tribal meeting, whatever that is on the full moon or or nightly at the fire, it's like, hey, I saw Craig sitting underneath the tree today.



And, you know, I was I was forging or hunting or whatever. And like, how many days is he going to sit underneath the tree while I'm working? Oh, my God. How many and how many offices are having that conversation, right? Or the person is just paranoid that other people don't think they're working enough.



And and they think they're going to get ostracized when the reality is they're really at the nightly meetings are like, you know, Craig's been working his ass off for the last six months. And can we get him to just sit underneath the tree for a second? And then there I am on the other side, like, oh, fuck, I'm not doing enough. I need to work harder.



And everybody else is like, Craig, you work too hard. Like, you need to sit underneath the tree and just chill out. And it doesn't matter what they tell you.



It's not enough. No, it's not enough to pop you out of that stress. No, you have to experience that truth yourself, right? Because how many times have we said something? Say no, no, no.



We love you. It's great. It's no problem.



And we're still well. So this goes back to my life being stressed and anxious. Like I was constantly grinding on how I can get ahead.



I was literally working 9 p.m. to 5 a.m., getting home, sleeping for a few hours and then cranking all day on entrepreneurial stuff and other things. And at one point when I was in New York City, I was working three jobs. I was working as a loan officer in the day.



And then Friday and Saturday night, I would go and I was a captain at a steakhouse. And then after I captained Friday and Saturday night and Monday night, I would emcee a party. And I mean, like, it was brutal.



And at the time I was dating my wife. Right. So it's like, it's like, how do you have time for a relationship when I'm working around the clock, literally around the clock, 8 a.m. to 5 p.m. 5 p.m., 530 to 930 as a captain at a steakhouse and then 10 to 12 and then rinse and repeat and do the whole thing again tomorrow.



And how did you move from this driving force that like, this is how you succeed. This is how you get ahead in life. This is what it's about.



This is the life experience to coming to a place where it's like, oh, you know, I've been around this earth. This is my this time. However many times I'm around now, we are one.



There are lots of lots of psychedelics, truth, ultimately lots of psychedelics, to be honest with you. I had my first psychedelic experience when I was 13 with cannabis. I had my first psilocybin experience when I was 16.



And look, it was all recreational. It wasn't ceremonial. It wasn't this beautiful, like I'm sitting in ceremony.



And and, you know, look, that's not the case. You saw something. Yeah, you had an opportunity, regardless of how it happened.



Learning more and more. OK, so what these amazing plants and these and these experience did is increase neuroplasticity, neuroplasticity, learning more and more about the science. If you're not familiar with Dr. Jack Cruz, I highly recommend giving him a listen.



He is mind bending, but learning more and more about what neuroplasticity actually is, the relationship to leptin, melanin and and these different cursors, which, by the way, is a connection to sunlight. And I mean, there's just how many rabbit holes do we want to dive down? So, look, I say psychedelics, but the reality is it's really about life experience. It's really about learning and education and feeling to go back to what I opened with, which was like, I hope that this translates into experience for everybody.



I didn't realize. So there's a phenomenal book, which I'm forgetting the name of, but it will come to me. And and the running theme is your downtime is as important as your uptime.



And and I did not recognize what this was. I mean, even when I was in college, just thinking back, I did two full years at SUNY Buffalo and and I was I was a pretty good student. I was partying mostly and snowboarding a lot.



But like I was go go. I'm always go, go, go, go, go. I'm always doing things.



I'm always keeping busy and I'm always filling time. And how that translates to in harmony is that I didn't realize that I wasn't really taking time for myself. I was having this conversation literally last night on the couch with my friends where where my friend was.



My friend Jess was basically like she literally lives three miles down the road. Like it takes her all of four minutes to drive here. OK, and and she was like, no, I'll turn on an e-book and, you know, I'll listen to an audio book.



And I'm like, really? It's like a four minute drive. And she's like, if I can get a couple of pages in, I'll do it. Yeah.



And she was like, you don't you don't do that. And I was like, honestly, no, like I'll roll down the windows and just lose myself on the horizon. Obviously, I'm driving, you know, taking care of the road and doing all the things I need to do.



But like, no, that's kind of. Now, look, I just I literally drove to San Diego and back yesterday to go to our warehouse and deal with a couple of things. See, Dom, I left at 6 a.m. I got there at ten thirty, four and a half hours there.



And and I was either on the phone or listening to a podcast. Right. So like, yeah, I definitely listen and do that.



But like, there'll be times where I just look at the horizon and and and kind of get lost in the beauty of this earth that never used to happen. I never used to do that. And to your point, we are constantly occupying ourselves.



And I said, I said, just give yourself the gift of not doing anything. And even my wife kind of chirped up because spoke up because she's doing the same thing. She's constantly listening to something.



She's like, I'm in the shower. I'm listening to a podcast. And I'm like, really? Like showers, kind of my time to think like that's even my wife does when she's doing the dishes, she'll put on a podcast.



And I'm like, really? I just kind of stare out the window, meditate, just kind of go within and think about stuff and reflect without the inputs from other people. We don't have a lot of of lyrics and in harmony music meditations for that purpose. Get lost in the music.



Go inward. Get lost in yourself. Give yourself time to check in.



Yeah, let's talk about that. Let's transition into that. And there's so many things that I want to say about what you just said, because I think it is an addiction to, you know, that, you know, I suffer from as well.



The desire to like, oh, I've got a few minutes. What can I learn? What can I put? What can I listen to? What can I do? What can I do? I'll go for walks around the neighborhood. It's like plugging in.



It translates to I'm not enough and I need to be doing more. I need to be doing more. I got to be learning more.



I got to. Right. And so it takes an act of will to say, no, you're going to go for a walk, you know, and just be with.



But what I will say also is, you know, this just happened just the other day. I brought my younger son to an appointment and I had an interaction with a practitioner and it annoyed me, you know, like I felt myself getting activated. And as we're driving home, you know, I would have loved to have been a fly in the well for that conversation.



I try not. I try not to see those people. We don't get along.



And I said, you know, I know it was actually an alternative practitioner. It was, you know, we should, it should have been. It should have been fine.



Cool. But I was driving home and I said to my son, I said to Jay, I said, you know, I really get it. I get any to like really work on my inner world here and like not get so activated.



And then the next thought I had was, you know, I had read however long ago that book open focus and I was driving along and I was like, all right, let me, let me just open my focus because my brain, I had a stack of clients and I'm like, I don't, and then I'm sitting there going, I don't want to be so preoccupied. I want to be going and all these things. And now he doesn't like me.



And you know, and I just started to open my focus and my peripheral vision and start to notice all the trees and the plant, all these things. And before I know it regulated, you know, like my mind kind of quieted down, but I want to go back to what you were just touching on, like go inside yourself, that tapping that intuition, tapping that inner wisdom. We do not value what is happening inside of us.



We're always on. What do you think? What do you think? What does Craig say? What is, you know, it's that, it's that survivability, which by the way, all, all human tribes in history were, were had a shaman. We're focused on some type of inner work, which by the way is, is highly scientific work as well.



I was just listening to Graham Hancock on the PBD podcast, and he was kind of talking about ancient civilizations and his beliefs and really getting into his beliefs about it, which is just invigorating. Cause this stuff really interests me because this is how the human body has evolved and the nervous system has evolved. The name of that book, by the way, the power of full engagement, just to bring a, bring that full circle that popped into my head and, and a really powerful asset because to our point right now, it talks about taking downtime.



And by the way, that downtime is not necessarily when you're listening to a podcast or watching TV or YouTube or whatever it is that you do to, you know, to fill your mind and learn it. It doesn't matter if it's a drama and you're getting engrossed in somebody else's drama. It doesn't matter if it's sport and you're getting enthralled into somebody else making their dreams come true.



It doesn't matter if it's educational content or an audio book, you're still not within yourself. You're focusing your attention outward or on some other input. I'm talking about just taking some time to take a nap, to rest, to meditate, to close your eyes.



Putting music meditations on in the background for me is not that distraction. Although we say on our website, say goodbye to a distracted mind, say hello to a relaxed existence or a relaxed being. And the reason for that is because we live in an overstimulated world to go back to what we were saying before.



Yeah. I'm looking at five screens right now. Right.



Right. It's not that easy to, to just turn it off. And so, in fact, I was talking to, I don't know if you know, Alan Gompers the other day, that's an episode that's coming up, but he was in prison.



And that's, that's how he realized, you know, that's how he found his freedom. And when he found out he was going to get out of prison, it freaked him out because he realized that he was going to have to deal with everything. And prison was a place where he, there's no other choice.



He could really focus on the inner world. That's right. But, um, you know, I'd love for you to speak to, cause you have so much information about sound and what you've created using technology.



And of course it's such a, such a rub because, you know, technology, when I look at my kids, you know, it's like, they're just, everything is kind of taking that, you know, taking their attention. Right. And here you have created this way of leveraging technology.



And I really want you to share some about, I want you to share with the audience about sound and what it does and, and energy around sound, how that works, because what you've created is, is really helping to people to understand that there are tools that we can use to help us sink in. Yeah. And so can you share a little bit about the science behind sound and how that works? Totally.



So there's a, there's a couple of different parts to this equation to just tread on, you know, just from a top level. First of all, everything around us is vibration. This entire universe is built on vibration.



Light is a faster form of vibration. It's all part of the same electromagnetic spectrum. There is a correlation between sound, light, and electromagnetic energy.



There's, it's all, it's all connected. And that is quite literally what makes up this entire universe, not even just right. This planet earth and this physical space, but like this, all of the dimensions, whatever it is that you want to think of and believe it's all vibration.



This creature is vibration. It absolutely is. This desk that looks and appears hard to me.



Look, just, just think we don't even have to get into the quantum level and quanta and particles and all of that, um, which we can, but like, just go back to seventh grade chemistry, protons, neutrons, and electrons, whatever this desk is made out of, which I would assume without knowing it's probably some form of formico, which is like a plastic coating on the outside of it on the inside. It's probably some type of, of wooden foam board or wood board, a particle board, something like that, right? Like it's silica, but you get back to the, I, I have, I haven't put up or decorated my house yet, but at some point, cause I just moved into a new office, but at some point, there's going to be a beautiful periodic table behind me because I'm enamored with science and research. I wish I knew in seventh grade what I'd be doing now, I would have paid so much more attention, like so much more attention, uh, here nor there.



So, so the, the first thing is that everything around us is vibrating this entire world. We, as human beings are quite literally antennas. We are constantly coming into and out of what's called harmonic residence with the frequencies that our body is presented with right now, right now, that's a relatively white light.



That's over here. And over here, I keep a red light therapy light next to my, uh, which is a little warm for me cause I was moving around this morning. So I don't have it on, but I usually have red light and infrared.



Uh, I love ultraviolet as well. Um, but this is all just to mimic the sun. So we are constantly coming into and out of what's called harmonic resonance with the frequencies we're being presented with.



Either you're tending to those frequencies or you're not. And here in America, electricity, which is flowing through every single wall in this house is 120 volts at 60 Hertz. When I sit in my kitchen and I work in a quiet home, which by the way, I rarely do anymore.



I usually always have our extended music meditations playing in the background for a variety of different reasons, which we'll talk about. If you sit in your kitchen and you work and all of a sudden the compressor to your, your refrigerator kicks on older fridges, right? In particular, you're hearing the hum to 60 Hertz frequency. Your body's coming into harmonic resonance with that.



When you get on the back of a Harley, one of the reasons why it's so soothing is because of the frequency is closer to 10 Hertz. It's a lower frequency when you look at the flicker of a candle, which is why sitting by a fire is so powerful. That flicker ratio of a fire is 10 Hertz closer, which is a target frequency for us to be at rest.



10 Hertz brainwave frequency is as an alpha brainwave state. So side question, because when you stare at a candle, for example, I've been taught like this is a way to begin to harness your telepathic abilities. It helps you to slow the mind down.



So let's talk about brainwave states really quickly, and then we can get back into sound and vibration. So when your eyes are open and you're processing the world around you, we can put an EEG on your head. It's like a swim cap with 19 points on it.



And we can test how fast the synapses in your brain are firing. And there's all sorts of different parts of the brain without getting too much in right reticular activator system, default mode network, right? Like you got all these different parts of the brain and, um, and we're all familiar with the term or the statement. At least I was, when I was a kid, you don't use your entire brain.



Humans use 10% of their brains, which is not true. We use all of our brains that nature does nothing by accident and doesn't create anything that's used for everything. That's not necessary evolves away.



And there's tons of examples of that. We use our entire brain. However, our entire brain isn't firing in harmony at the same time.



When I'm using memory recall, it's part of one brain. If it's short-term or long-term, it's a different part of the brain. And, um, my motor skills are different.



Language is a different part of the brain. Like if I'm just, if I'm walking, chewing gum, speaking English while thinking in Spanish, um, I'm activating more parts of my brain. If I'm listening to music and I have more senses activated, like I'm activating more parts of my brain, music harmonizes the brain.



And we can tell how active one part of your brain is versus another based on how fast those synapses are firing. And if the synapses are firing between the 14 Hertz up to 40 Hertz, we call that a beta brainwave. If it's 12 to 14 Hertz down to eight Hertz, we call it an alpha brainwave, eight Hertz to four Hertz data, four Hertz and below Delta 40 Hertz and above gamma.



There's a couple other brainwave states, but those are the main five. And we can test how fast those synapses are firing. And that's why we talk about brainwave entrainment.



And we talk about what's happening when you're meditating or when you're in a daydreamy state or when you're in deep, deep sleep, all these, these, you know, whoops and aura rings, they're all tracking heart rate variability. And they're tracking how fast your heart rate is beating. And then they're getting into the brain and brainwave entrainments, how the muse works.



The muse is testing how fast your brain is firing. And that tells it what meditative state, which is alpha, theta, delta, up into gamma. Those meditative states are side of beta, eyes open processing the world around you.



Sound and vibration, just to go back to that, play a really powerful role in tending to the body and allowing us to drift into these altered states of consciousness, which by the way, I said psychedelics quickly, but it's really altered states of consciousness that allow me to perceive this reality, good or bad and allow us to go with it. When you're stuck on the to-do list, you're stuck in that beta brainwave. I've got to get this done.



I've got to do this. I have a honey do list that won't quit. Like literally, like I even said to my wife a couple of weeks ago, I was like, Hey, I need no new projects to appear on the honey do list for a little while.



And she was like, really, are you okay? And I was like, I was like, yeah, I just need a break. I know they're going to come back on. I know there's plenty for me to do, but I like, if you want to keep it in your journal, instead of putting it on, we literally have a board of like, do these things.



And if I've got time to fill, I'm like, cool. You know, I take out the garbage. I do all that stuff.



I take care of the house. I have my own projects that I want to do. And then my wife wants me to like put together an office chair that she bought and, and hang some stuff on the wall in harmony's room.



And like, she's like, Hey, can I get two hours of your time? And I'm like, sure, of course, whatever you need. Right. But like, it's all just demand.



So I'm like, Hey, I need no new demands. I just need to process and get through the stuff that I need to get done so that I can feel accomplished. And then we can add and throw whatever you want to throw at.



So sound and vibration is quite literally how we can tend to our inner self ourselves and take care of ourselves. It is a shortcut to take us from beta into alpha, theta, delta, and up into gamma. It can quite literally allow us to get more done in a shorter period of time.



It is the hack and the shortcut. So as I said before, just to tie this all together, I told you before that downtime is as important as our uptime. Sleep is obviously a big part of it.



It's the main reason why I wear the whoop is to track my sleep at night because I don't wear my Apple watch at night. I'm a data hound by the way. I love heart rate variability.



I love, and I recognize all of the pitfalls and downfalls that come with how we're tracking specifically with these two devices. They're not perfect, but they're relative to myself and my own baseline. And that's what I'm tracking and looking at sound and vibration is the shortcut.



So as I said before, your downtime is as important as your uptime. That includes drifting out of a beta brainwave and spending time in alpha, theta, delta, and gamma. The body and the brain does different things as we drift in and out of these different brainwave states.



People ask a lot with our technology, can this help with sleep? Well, sleep and meditation is nothing more than a conscious perception of a slower brainwave state. I think that's really important to note. Sleep and meditation is nothing more than a cons a conscious perception of a slower brainwave state.



And what that means just to evaluate on, just to expand on that, what that means is your brain doesn't sleep. Like it doesn't turn off different parts of your brain get quiet because when you're sleeping, you're not using language or the memory recall, right? Like you're doing different things, but like your brain doesn't turn off. You're still breathing at night.



You're still, your heart is still beating at night. It slows down, but like your brain is still working. Your nervous system is still on.



If, if there's a loud bang right outside your window, your nervous system wakes you up. It jolts you. Which brings us to a whole nother conversation we're not going to go into right now, but is consciousness.



Oh, what is that? That we could, we don't know is the short answer, right? I mean, we don't know. I can give you a whole bunch of theories that I have though. So, so look, you're, we don't sleep.



So sleep and meditation is really nothing more than a conscious perception. My perception, Craig's perception. What am I doing? I'm sleeping.



No, you're not sleeping. You're actually enjoying an alpha, theta, delta, and gamma brainwave. And your brain and body and nervous system is doing different things to tend to your desk, to clean and organize your house, to knock out the honey do list of maintenance tasks while you are at rest, which is why if we're stressed and anxious, we don't sleep well because your body's in fight or flight.



Cortisol and adrenaline are flowing through your body. That's designed to keep you awake and keep you focused on the problem at hand. Instead of relaxing and maintaining the body, killing off dead cells, dealing with dealing with the processes of the body.



So quite literally sound and vibration is the shortcut. And when you amplify that further with our relaxation furniture, it amplifies that shortcut even more. So we know sound and music induces different brainwave states.



We know brainwave entrainment induced. We have a longstanding partnership with brain tap that talks and educates us on from a science perspective, what's happening in the brain. We know we can pace the brain into and hold you in an alpha, theta, delta, or gamma brainwave state.



And we know that this mimics what the brain naturally goes through during a power nap, during a meditative state or, or during sleep at night. And your body immediately starts to do the things it needs to do in those brainwave states as you're experiencing it. So you can lay down on the sound lounge and do a 22 minute session.



And I know I can hold you in theta for, for 20 of those 22 minutes. You're getting the equivalent of four to six hours of sleep in 22 minutes. Not because you're actually getting sleep.



And yes, you need prolonged periods of the body at rest for the body to rejuvenate. But mentally I can give you the equivalent of, of four to six hours of sleep in 22 minutes. But isn't it even better than that? Because it's resonance, right? Like you're tapping in, like you could hop off that table in a burst of creativity with like, like we go to sleep and wake up in the next morning.



It's like, Oh, here I go again, doing the same thing. So creativity lives in an alpha brainwave state. Yeah.



And you can't get into an alpha brainwave state when your eyes are open. Yeah. So if you're in that alpha brainwave state, your eyes need to be closed.



You need to be focused inward resting. And if you're go, go, go all day, you're not giving yourself a chance to get there. And, and even just going to sleep at night doesn't necessarily get you there.



So speak to intuition if in that capacity. Sure. So intuition is associated with a gamma brainwave state.



It's our higher states of consciousness. It's our higher thought patterns. Look, it's very much connected to the nervous system.



It's, it's one of the reasons why meditation or some type of meditative practice, our technology is, is part of that meditative practice. We teach people how to meditate using sound and vibration. We can take you to the depths of a meditative state using sound and vibration.



If you meditate and you've been meditating 20 minutes a day for 20 years and you hop on our meditation cushion and you get the adjustments of volume and vibration, correct, because you don't want to overstimulate the body. You actually need less stimulation. I will take you to the depths of your meditative state faster and keep you there longer than you've ever like.



Meditation is a funny thing. I'll get to intuition in a second. Meditation is a really funny thing.



Um, how do I, Abby, if, if you said, Craig, let's say I was a meditation instructor and like we were here for like your, I'm going to teach you how to meditate. Joe, Dr. Joe, I love his retreats. Okay.



And I love what he does because there's nothing like it, but how does Joe know 2000 people sitting in the audience are actually meditating? Yeah, he does it right. There's no way for Joe to know because you're meditating. It's your process for all Joe knows.



This is not the case. And I love Dr. Joe. He's amazing.



He's incredible. His work is incredible. I'm sorry.



He's a little supernatural too. He's got more stuff going on. Okay.



But like, but like, let's just say, Abby, look, you're, you're a coach. You help people meditate. Right.



Let's say I was like, Abby, I want you to teach me how to meditate. Okay. And you walk me through your process or whatever that looks like, right.



It's probably a guided meditation. You're going to walk me through deep breaths, relaxing my body, whatever the process is. Let's say I'm just sitting there like this the whole time.



And you might see my eyes flutter. You might see some external representation of me dropping into that brainwave state. But for all, you know, I could be sitting there being like, fuck, this just, this isn't working.



I've got this honey do list to do. I'm just going to sit here with my eyes closed for the next 20 minutes and let Abby know that this is great. And I'm super grateful.



I want to respect her time. I want her to like me. I want her to appreciate me.



I paid for this session. This is great. She's awesome.



But this is not going to work. It's not working. Right.



Yes. And I would say that. And I think you would agree that because of the energetic connection between two people, right? You would get it.



But now we get back in intuition. I can feel it. I can feel it.



And sometimes I can just say, what's happening? This isn't working. I can tell this isn't working. Right.



Right. But if I'm not doing that, then I won't, then I'll miss it completely. Totally.



Yeah. Right. But it's a very internal thing, right? Like it's a, it's a you thing, but here's the beauty of having a coach of having a piece of hardware that can help you to do it is that that crutch is there to bring you back.



So particular with our meditation cushion, our music meditations, the instruction is simply to lose yourself in the music. That's it. Don't overthink it.



Just lose yourself in the music. The sound and the vibration will guide you. And if you have that, just like you've experienced with our cushion, when you have that experience reaching that meditative mind, sound and vibration guides the mind, body, and spirit into the depth of that meditative process so that you don't take as much time getting there.



You're just taken there. And it's not all the same vibration, right? There's different megahertz. There's 432.



There's one. What are they all for? Want to share with us? So I don't believe there are any bad frequencies. I don't believe that there's any one frequency that's good for any one thing.



However, when it does correlate to the brain and we can get into brainwave entrainment, specifically at those lower frequencies, which by the way, our music, our transducers only go down to 20 Hertz and really you can feel down to 10 Hertz. So it's not about the frequency itself, but instead isochronic tones, binaural beats, and various markers that we put in the music that the brain begins to entrain to at a 10 Hertz frequency. So there's complexities to that of how we entrain the brain and brain tap is a great example of that.



And there are many others that do brainwave entrainment and binaural beats, isochronic tones, that sort of thing. All of those tools are used to your brain is constantly looking for patterns. So we can entrain the brain into that alpha, theta, delta, or gamma brainwave state simply by using isochronic tones and various signals to the brain.



You can do it with light. You can do it with sound. There's lots of different ways that we can do it and hold you there for prolonged periods of time and teach your brain how to move in and out of these different brainwave states.



When your nervous system is completely dysregulated, you're not good at moving in and out of these alpha, theta, delta, gamma brainwave states. Moving out of beta, you get stuck in beta. You literally agonize and can't sleep at night because you're not getting deep REM sleep because you're not moving out of proficiently moving out of beta into alpha, alpha into theta, theta into delta, et cetera.



So sound and vibration becomes that crutch. And to go back to my point just a second ago, and then we'll go to intuition. When you get on our technology and you have that meditative experience, you're taken into the depths of your meditative process.



And now it doesn't matter what's happening on the outside because you have your baseline of, Hey, if I'm going to sit on anything, go through my meditative practice takes me 20 minutes. And usually I'm cognitive and aware for the first five. And then I kind of drift off.



And then I kind of come to 20 minutes later when my alarm goes off and it's time for me to come back into my body. Or you get on the cushion and you're like, man, I literally just remember closing my eyes and then the music stopped. And I was back, right? Because you already have like a needle in the rut of a record.



It just falls into place. And you already have that neural plasticity. You already have those neural pathways defined.



We dive right in. For folks that get our meditation cushion that haven't meditated before the sound of the music is, is very, and the vibration is very much a crutch that entrains the brain into those deeper meditative states. Now you mentioned your intuition.



We all have this intuitive connection to the world around us. So many of us are moving so quickly through the world that we don't slow down to hear it. And we're going to drift real quick into a conversation and an experience that I had at Burning Man.



I know we're coming up on an hour. I want to respect your time. But quite literally, our higher selves are constantly and regularly able, willing, ready and able to communicate with us in this 3D plane and wants to communicate with us to help us.



But so many of us are moving so quickly, so fast from task to task. We're not giving ourselves that opportunity to slow down, to turn on and turn up our intuitive antenna so that we can hear ourselves communicating with ourselves in this earthwalk. And part of that comes from slowing down.



And by the way, there's a cultural devaluing of our inner knowing and that's selfish and that's this and there's a way you should be and shouldn't be, but go on. Yeah, but we know, you know, when you should or shouldn't be doing something, you know, when you walk into a room and you're like, I gotta get out of here. I'm not supposed to be here.



For you, but we override it because I should be. Totally. It's the right thing to do.



Well, I don't want to disappoint somebody else. Look, I was invited. There's an event happening here in Vegas today, all day today.



And I was invited to go to this event. And I had this podcast, which I wanted to be here and be present and be at my house for. And I've got my buddy, Lynn, pulling out his RV today.



And I've got some, you know, some things I need to do associated with that. And I have a sound launch demo happening today. I've got a lot of things happening.



And I was going to try and squeeze it in and be there for lunch. And then I, Andrew, I love you. I really, I can't be there today.



I drove to San Diego and back yesterday. Like, yeah, I love you, buddy. I just can't make it.



And I have a date night with my wife tonight, which is really important. So I can't even see you the night before you drop back to Salt Lake City, even though I want to see him. I'm sorry.



I just can't do it. I love you. Yes.



And that's just intuitive, right? And, you know, it's the right decision. It feels right. Yeah, it feels good.



And Andrew will be fine. And I'll see him soon. Right.



Unless he's like, Craig, I really need to see you. I have something. I need your help.



Otherwise, I'm committed to my wife tonight for. And by the way, I've had visitors in and out of my house for the last two weeks. And today is the first time that it's just going to be us in the house.



And I want to create some special time, put my daughter to bed. And I want to have a date night with my wife. It's just two of us.



I don't know what we're going to do. We'll figure it out. But like, it's just us time.



All right. And having that intention is impossible when we're running, running, running, running, running. Yeah.



You can't stop long enough to have that intention. No. And you got to slow down to feel it.



I wanted to share with the listeners because I had and I shared with you, you know, the question. Sometimes I use it to like, if I feel, you know, really activated. And it's like, what? I've got so many things going.



So many things I could work on. I don't know which, where to go. I don't even, you know, and I'll sit down and just be like, I need to tap into my intuition.



I need to like, whatever. And before I know it, not only have I tapped into like, oh, this is, this is where I need to be. But like creativity is like, and sometimes I get there in regular meditation too.



Like I'll meditate for 10 minutes with the intention of meditating for an hour. But an idea drops in that I'm just like, oh my God, I got to go execute right now. You know, I keep a pad and pen next to my sound lounge for that purpose.



And I very often come to in the middle because of the download that I just got. And I'm like, oh, this can't, this can't escape. Or I'll grab my phone right after a 22 or 33 minute, 44 minute session.



And I will fire off text messages. Hey, I got this download. You need to talk to so-and-so.



Hey, have you thought of this? You might've already, but like, I just got this download. Um, look, that's because we need to slow down to feel and connect with our higher selves, which knows what to do and knows where we need to go because it understands the soul contract. We have total, total different conversation.



Um, but like, it's all part of tapping into that intuition. And we got to slow down in order to do that. Look, even if it's for a few moments, even if it's like box breathing, which I really like a four count in hold for four, four count out, hold for four, like even just doing that for 30 seconds to a minute, we'll, we'll kick in parasympathetic and help you to gain clarity around the current situation.



Yeah. I wanted to mention that too. Like the things that, you know, when you don't have money to invest in things like that, those ideas, that's an excellent one.



I want to give you an opportunity to, um, because we, we, before we end, I want to, I want to give you an opportunity to share those things. I have a couple of other questions. I want you to be able to go back and tell us about the woman that you were listening to speak and what she's amazing.



Okay, cool. Well, let's do that. Cause it's all related.



Okay. So, um, so look, first and foremost, here are the things that we can do to maintain our overall health and wellness that are free. Okay.



Um, first thing you got to do in the morning when you wake up, uh, hopefully you're, we are waking up with the sun and there's, there's a ton that talks about the wavelengths of sun that happens when it's on the horizon. Again, this goes back into Dr. Jack Cruz's work. Um, but first thing, get yourself out of the house, get as much sunlight on as much of your skin as possible and get your feet on the earth, not on concrete, not on pavement, not on anything petroleum based, but on sand, dirt, grass, whatever in the winter, in the summer discharge, the static electricity that built up overnight while you're rolling around in your sheets, hopefully they're organic cotton.



So, you know, whatever, but like, get yourself out and get yourself into the sunlight. Um, that's, it's free. Sunlight is free for everybody, right? You might have to move someplace to find it or go someplace to get it.



But like sunrise, sunshine is really important for the circadian rhythm and really important for the mind, body, and spirit. Um, getting yourself out and exercise zone two cardio as our iPhones love to tell us, um, you should be able to have a conversation while your heart rate is increased. So fantastic.



If you've got a meeting over the course of the day, just go for a brisk walk for 30 minutes while you take that phone call. It can be done in a city. It can be done out in nature, wherever, but just go for, it could be on a treadmill, but get your heart rate up to where you're panting a little bit to have a conversation, but you can still have a conversation for at least 30 minutes a day, hug another human skin on skin contact for at least 20 seconds releases oxytocin and a whole bunch of other feel good chemicals in the body, uh, meditate, whatever that looks like over the course of the day.



I like whole hot, hot therapy. I like cold therapy. I think those are important.



Um, they're not always free, but, um, but you can get yourself in a cold shower. Uh, if you've got a shower, you can get yourself in a cold shower and I highly recommend it. A little hack to make the shower even colder, uh, is to take a strainer, those, those string strainers and put that up over the top to turn your water into a mist and it gets way colder.



Um, so a nice little hack that's $2 for one of those strainers. But I'm a big fan of cold therapy exercise, right? All these things are free. Here's some things that, that Dr. Lessler, uh, had mentioned, which I thought were really powerful because we have this need to feel safe and your nervous system being triggered is really a perception of not being safe.



So there are things that we can do, like stand with your hands out and open. Um, that is, that is a feeling of being safe. Um, getting your feet on the earth is also a feeling of being safe because I'm not holding a knife fighting and my fists are not clenched so that I can defend myself.



No, sending a message to your body, sending a message to your body, right? Um, laying on the ground or sitting in a hammock, um, is, is, is when you're not in a cave and in darkness, when you're in sunlight and you're exposed, there are no predators around. You don't feel threatened. Like the correlation that she had, I was just like, wow, this is amazing.



Like there are things and activities that we can do to show our body that we are safe. And part of that is being in an open field because there are no predators around and you are the apex predator. So getting out in nature, um, look in a lot of ways being in crowded places, but when you're in a crowded place, your body and your nervous system is on, is on, is there a threat around? Am I going to get pickpocketed? Is somebody going to hurt me? Is this person walking by me trying to do harm to me? Why are you making eye contact with me? Like, right.



So being in a field all by yourself sends a signal to the brain that I'm safe, that there are no predators on the horizon. I'm safe. Now you're, um, in harmony because it's an app on your phone that has all of these beautiful different residents before we, before we get to that, right.



Yeah. We also have our extended music meditations on YouTube. So for free, you can stream on YouTube.



Now there'll be commercials because that's how YouTube pays for itself. But right. But as long as you can deal with commercials, you've got access to 11, 10 different music meditations and counting and 15 or 16.



I think we're at 17 different extended music meditations, which are 11 hours long, which are designed to keep your home and office for free, completely in harmony. Upgrades from there is yes, our app, which is $8 a month. And that music is optimized for our relaxation furniture optimized, meaning that the music was mastered specifically with a higher base response to activate the transducers in our relaxation furniture more effectively and more appropriately.



So the vibration that's happening in the furniture is correlating to the music. A hundred percent. It is the music.



So inside that meditation cushion is something called a tactile transducer. There's one inside your cushion. There's two inside the practitioner two and the massage table.



There's four inside the sound lounge. And they're made specifically for us. They activate between 20 Hertz and 200 Hertz.



So it's a low end frequency. And and this is what's actually creating the vibration. It is the music.



It's not mimicking the music. It's not in sync with the music. It is the music.



When you're sitting on that meditation cushion, you are quite literally hearing the same frequencies that you are feeling. Oh, and this is what creates the three-dimensional fully immersive experience to go back to what we shared about the nervous system. We are now harmonizing two out of your five senses.



The cochlea in your ear and the auditory nerve is sending the same signals in the same frequencies to the brain as every mechanoreceptor in your body. It's feeling. Yeah, that's how we perceive touch.



So that overlap of between between five Hertz to 200 Hertz, let's say, and what you hear, because the human ear picks up on frequencies 20 Hertz to 20,000 Hertz when it's when it's fully functioning, right? That decreases as we get older and the cochlea die off or the parts of the ear die off. The mechanoreceptors five Hertz to 300 Hertz. So our tactile transducers, which is what's sending the vibrations to the body activate between 20 Hertz and 200 Hertz.